The Dark Knight bloopers & business lessons

Lita is yet to see the reported fabness that is Heath in makeup, clowning around, trying to hurt the guy in the black tights.  So, this post is brought to you by the letters ‘Don’t Look’ and the number ‘Spoiler’. 

I copy and pasted the link with my eyes shut – I’m so blimmin’ dedicated, oh yes.  So, if pedantism and his delicious friend, detail, are your thang, click here to view the mistakes spotted so far in The Dark Knight

Still on the batty one, Uncy Googy led me to this interesting column, Business Lessons from Batman and The Dark Knight by Seattle blogger Alyssa Royse.  Be warned, if you follow that link, you will find death threats and other vile comments left for Alyssa.  All because she didn’t much like The Dark Knight. 

Royse has now written a follow up post about her first death threat and the barrage of ignorant and misogynistic comments left on her original post. 

Holy vicious insanity Batman. Since no one really should have to read through all of them, I’ve selected a small handful of comments that others have asked me to take down:

* Get a life you two dollar whore blogger, The Dark Knight doesn’t suck, you suck! Don’t ever post another blog or unless you want to get ganged up.

* Who let this woman out of the kitchen?

* you are clearly retarded, i hope someone shoots then rapes you

* alyssa darling, why don’t you make yourself useful and go have a baby

* I think a certain “author” needs to go back to playing house before she breaks mommy’s computer.

* I’m sure you’d have no trouble finding a top flight job in either the housekeeping or food service industries. And please, change your pad. Thanks! 🙂

* if you were my wife i would beat you

* This is why women are TOO STUPID to think critically and intelligently about film; AND business for that matter.

Alyssa chose to leave the comments up, but the blog editors later removed them as they clearly violated blog comment policy.

I am leaving them up so that we can all see them, and squirm in discomfort and ask ourselves who we are as a society that these comments even exist.

Who are we that we think a disagreement about a film should result in violent attacks and death?
Who are we that we hide behind anonymous blog comments threatening and harassing each other to feel powerful?
Who are we that we have raised people so weak and violent that they resort to this kind of thing?
Who are we that we cannot embrace dialog and disagreement as an opportunity to learn and grow?
Who are we that we want to silence anyone who disagrees with us?

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2 responses to “The Dark Knight bloopers & business lessons

  1. You have to realize the audience you’re dealing with here. These are so-called death threats by geeks and nerds raised on comic books whose violence is as cartoony as Tom and Jerry’s. Not only that, the fact that it’s part of an Internet mob gives these posters courage. Can you imagine if you run into one of these people in person? They would probably in awe at seeing a woman outside of the family that they would pee in their pants.

    Not all the posters who responded to Royse’s article were like that, as you can see. And to be fair, Royse’s article was just awful. It’s one thing to disagree with the quality of a film–I saw The Dark Knight, I thought it was great, but even I had some problems with the story-telling structure–but Royse was off her rocker in that article.

    She says that the film alienated its fan base–except that the fan came out in droves to defend it. She says it was a lesson in how not to do business–except the movie is breaking box office records left and right (fastest movie to break $400 million). She says it misses opportunities, such as when Lucius Fox says, “You took what I made and went crazy with it.” Royse suggested that Fox should have said, “You took what I made and went bat-sh*t with it.” Are you kidding me? I’m just glad she wasn’t an executive in the making of the film. Someone like her would have probably tried to impose that line into the script–just to prove how clever she was, then backing it up with some mumble jumble business statistical proof that would have made as much sense as her article.

    Then she wraps it all up in a package of poor grammar and smugness, with lines such as, “A movie just can’t do all that. Just can’t.” That’s smug. That’s clueless. And that’s trying too hard to be clever.

    In the end, she reeked of being a fake. So, she provoked a lot of irritation from readers, many such as myself who think people have a right to form an opinion. But if you put it out there, expect to get responses challenging your opinions as well.

    As for the death threats, it’s just socially incapable nerds and geeks who have no idea how to express themselves effectively. This is why they spend their time thinking Batman is real, making their ability to get a girlfriend unreal.

  2. I find that I need to address something after reading Royse’s reactionary article (you can see that here: http://www.blogher.com/rape-and-death-and-batman-oh-my), where she cries about how this is misogyny and that it’s an attack on women because Batman is a guy thing and the fans don’t want women to be a part of it. I’ll say it outright from the beginning: this seems to be more a tactic to divert attention away from her article, which she now probably realizes is awful. Never once does she answer any of the challenges people have posted, no matter how civilized or not. Not once. As a so-called expert in entrepreneurship, how could she have been so wrong at comparing the movie to a bad business model? How could she not have gotten the box office numbers before posting her article? How could she not have seen the critical reviews on IMDB.com, rottentomato.com, or even Amazon.com. For crying out loud, she even used Amazon.com as a point of comparison in her article. How could she not have done a little research to see how much business the movie was doing before saying that it was a bad business model? These are mistakes even most amateur bloggers won’t make. Instead, she just starts crying about how she’s a victim so that she could keep her business reputation intact.

    I noticed that you tagged your article with the keyword “misogyny.” Also note that in the reactionary article by Royse above that comments also jump on the misogyny bandwagon–going so far as to complain about how the Rachel character is used only as an object in the movie, etc.

    This has nothing to do with gender. Sure, some of the posters brought up misogynistic terms as invectives, but if you were a poor man who posted that article, they would have just as likely called you a bum. Does this mean they hate homeless people? It has little to do with misogyny and everything to do with these posters’ desperate grasping at straws in order to be “clever” with their little invectives.

    For some reason Royse seems to be clueless about this as well, since she can’t simply take a little time to look up other reviews and the reactions they get from the fans. Click on any negative reviews on rottentomatoes.com about The Dark Knight, and it’s obvious that the flack Royse gets isn’t anything about her. She’s not the special person she thinks she is simply because she’s an entrepreneuring woman. I repeat, she’s not special just because she’s a female entrepreneur, even though she seems to think otherwise. For crying out loud, the producer of The Dark Knight is Emma Thomas (a woman, obviously). Royse just happens to have infuriated a lot of fans, many of whom probably haven’t passed high school English, and saw their reaction.

    I thought this was an important point to address, since Royse, in her article above, is trying to really play that victim role at this point. She says, “Not one comment questioned the business ideas presented. They all, instead, referred to my menstrual cycle and clearly retarded intellect. Of nearly 200 comments, maybe 3 didn’t mention my gender.” Go to her original post: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/startherup/archives/145063.asp. Look at all the comments that are still there below her article. You’re going to see many that question her business ideas. You will also see that many, many of them do not question her gender, contrary to her claim that only 3 out of 200 didn’t do so. The first comment to her article is:

    If you spent the ‘interminable duration of it figuring out ways to lampoon it’, how can you have truly taken in the movie?

    “This piece is a study in what happens when a writer tries to do more than they can, looses (writer’s typo, not mine) focus, is fake, gets too big a team and misses opportunities.”

    Another one says, “Oh, so this is an example of an enterpreneur’s mistake? Make $300 million dollars in 2 weeks?”

    Yet, another says, “I just have a small question, and silly me i am no big shot writer and all that. How does a director ‘do more than (he) can, loses focus, is fake, gets too big a team and misses opportunities’ and still end up making $400 million dollars? If this is failure i will take lessons from Chris Nolan over you any day.”

    And believe it or not, I’ve already found a fourth comment that doesn’t address her gender, this one from a woman:

    “i completely agree…
    seriously lady…who are you? and where is your $400 million dollar accomplishment? this blog is probably the only thing that will give you any kind of recognition, and i seriously doubt any of it will be positive.
    if people agreed with you about this film, i sincerely doubt it would gross close to $600,000,000.
    oh and i am a woman, who attends graduate school and runs a photography business…i’ve seen this film. twice,”

    I’m not saying that Royse doesn’t have a right to feel offended by the fans’ reactions to her article. It’s her viewpoint, and she’s entitled to it. But I really disagree with how she’s playing this up as some kind of grand example of misogyny in order to avoid admitting that she doesn’t know what the hell she was talking about. If this is a showcase of her expertise in business, I would definitely be cautious of learning from her.

    As to examples of the same kind of invectives to other critics who gave negative reviews to The Dark Knight (and a lot of these are male critics, mind you), check out the negative reviews and their reactions here:
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight/

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